Anatomy of a Garmin problem

During this year’s Transcontinental race over 50% riders [citation needed] used Garmin navigators for finding their way. Also it is fair to say everyone had some problems with their navigation. Most of the problems were just imcompetence, poor planning, lag of attention or wrong decisions. Navigating through Europe on your own is not easy task for anyone. The problems do however underline two things.

One. There is no real option for Garmin right now so we are stuck with it. I can ride by street signs, paper maps or cue sheets, but I’d be riding on bigger roads and it is significantly slower. Mobile phone navigation apps are trash because of user interface and battery life issues.  And the competition. Ugh. Magellan/Mio go home and see your next year.

Two. Even the best in the market is unsuitable for long distance/audax riding. While it is obviously possible to find my way with Garmin, it should not be dangerous, distracting and complicated.

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I use Garmin Edge 810 for navigation. Polar CS600 was there because Edge is unsuitable for tracking distance and heart rate.

So lets get started. I will repeat this issue again later! Why on earth would I want the device to power off when charging ends? To keep my Garmin juiced up I need to charge it. Obvious way to charge it is dynamo. When I slow down the dynamo will not give enough current so charging stops. What does Garmin do? It gives me 15 seconds to click ”No” or it powers off. And why would a cyclist slow down? In uphills, red lights, intersections and cities where they… navigate. During this year’s Transcontinental I restarted my Edge 810 more than 100 times. Mostly it didn’t matter, but still it adds up so that I spent maybe an hour waiting for Garmin to catch up. It is dangerous and distracting to play with Garmin in traffic. But why don’t I use power bank or something else for charging as dynamo doesn’t work properly? Well. I could, but why the heck should I? This is a problem caused by Garmin’s retarded design choice that they can fix with a simple firmware upgrade. No warnings. Please?

The device is a navigator, but could it please stop navigating? Most of us spent hours or even days planning our route. I absolutely don’t want the navigator to try to guess where I want to go. Just show to route and shut up. How about a simple way to turn off ”navigation” and turn-by-turn instructions? In brevet cycling it might be even against the rules to leave the route. Just show the planned route! Well. There is a way to do this. Stop course and choose a new one. The old course will stay on the map in colour I chose. However I will lose two important features. Upcoming elevation profile and distance to destination. After I start the new exercise and load the new course I’ll just have to wait for the blessing of ”Route calculation error”. After that the device surprisingly work’s as I wanted it in the 1st place. Maybe replace ”lap” button with ”inject route calculation error” button? That would be a lot more useful. And for no obvious reason loading a course also overrides activity profile’s navigation preferences to ”cycling” which in most cases means 200 km of u-turning. I could keep going forever about this issue. There are a few ways, other than waiting for ”route calculation error”, that sometimes work. Turn gps off before loading a new course and turn gps back on. However you’ll have to turn gps off every time you continue exercise after reboot. Remember the device usually powers off when I slow down. And there is the other way. I love this one. Load both OSM and City navigator maps to memory card and set both enabled. Then you’ll have the turn-by-turn instructions, but no turn-by-turn alerts. That should be the best option really and very obvious to figure out. Right? What do you think?

Then there are obvious software bugs, usually related to navigating. For example my route from Mont Lovcen to Greece was very prone to these errors. It was a bit ”too long”, about 550 km. The problem was that when starting the device it would simply power off again while loading maps. Fix was to power off, remove memory card, power on, continue exercise, end exercise, power off, insert memory card, power on, load course, start exercise and continue business as usual. Maybe 30-40 times during Transcontinental. In uphills, in downhills, in cities, in traffic, in the middle of the night, sometimes even when it was raining. I always did this while riding. Only, not ”business as usual”, issue was how to hold the memory card without dropping it while clicking through the menus. The same with the hard reset I had to do. Finally the grand annoyance was that while I had set Garmin to save activities on memory card it obviously didn’t work then memory card was in my hand. So the hard reset wiped out the activities that were saved during these map problems. Meaning I lost about 1000 km worth of activities when I finally had to do the hard reset after the device wouldn’t turn on at all. For the record I was using routes planned in www.gpsies.com, downloaded as .gpx and added to Garmin via NewFiles folder. Map source was www.openfietsmap.nl/downloads/europe.

Why on earth would I want the device to power off when charging ends? To keep my Garmin juiced up I need to charge it. Obvious way to charge it is dynamo. When I slow down the dynamo will not give enough current so charging stops. What does Garmin do? It gives me 15 seconds to click ”No” or it powers off. And why would a cyclist slow down? In uphills, red lights, intersections and cities where they… navigate. During this year’s Transcontinental I restarted my Edge 810 over 100 times. Mostly it didn’t matter, but still it adds up so that I spent maybe an hour waiting for Garmin to catch up. It is dangerous and distracting to play with Garmin in traffic. But why don’t I use power bank or something else for charging as dynamo doesn’t work properly? Well. I could, but why the heck should I? This is a problem caused by Garmin’s retarded design choice that they can fix with a simple firmware upgrade. No warnings. Please?

Another rather strange ”warning” Edge 810 has is the ”course found” alert. Well, thanks. Can we continue? This is mostly a issue in roundabouts where the planned and actual route slightly differ. There are always minor differences in gps fix/map source/planned route. What happens is in the middle of intersection/roundabout I get ”course found” alert and screen basically jams for 5-10 seconds. If I wasn’t sure where to continue I’ll just have to pick something, and fast, if there happens to be other traffic in the roundabout. That I have found a course is pretty much secondary to where I should be going. Usually not a problem, but still maybe 20-30 cases during Transcontinental. This is obviously a software/design issue.

My last, not so important, problem in current design is related to starting/stopping the device. When I continue it is damn sure I’ve moved to wherever I am. In easiest case you could add a direct line from wherever I stopped to wherever you continued. And if you were and still are on route it would be a good guess you’ve actually travelled the route. That way I’d have better idea of distance travelled and average speed for later use. If you are sportsing with your sports computer you might prefer the current way.

And a bonus. A physical ”lap” button in Edge Touring? Seriously? Riding 10kkm+ per year for last 10 years I’ve never considered pressing it in any device I’ve had. Switch it to ”day button”. That would tell you what day it is. That would be a lot more useful. You have maybe hundred options for data fields, but no weekday or date. I can obviously check it from my cell phone, or simply try to remember it, but easier if you just add it to the available data fields. I think I actually had to check it 3 times during Transcontinental.

Garmin also provides a mobile phone app that connects to latest devices. App is nowadays quite good. A while ago it, and the website too, failed to upload routes longer than approx 300 km and stopped syncing, but that bug is gone. There are however some odd things about the app. Maybe the most obvious is location management. Edge locations are places you can pin point on map and then navigate to. Why can’t I choose the locations, or courses, and start activity/navigation from the app directly? Phone user interface is thousand times more suitable for that than Edge’s. Now I can’t even add new locations from the app. Other odd things is that I can’t add gpx files to device directly from the app. I can do it by inserting the memory card to my phone and adding the gpx to NewFiles folder, but I can’t do it from the app. Why?

These are the obvious problems with Garmin for long distance cycling. Like I said in the beginning most of the problems cited as ”Garmin problems” are really something else. No matter how good a navigator is it can’t figure out problems in the map source. Routing will never be flawless. Roads come and go, as do road constructions. In the end cyclist is the real navigator, not the device. And the device shouldn’t distract the real navigator.

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I hope you are still there. 🙂

Transcontinental race 2014 – Complete kit list

I tried to cover everything I’m using at Transcontinental race this year.

The bike. It looks a lot like it did last year. Open pave tires, Powertap and Son Deluxe hubs with open pro rims. Brooks saddle and the usual components.

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I am a bit afraid of the dark so I have 2x luxos (U/B) dynamo lights and MyTinySun Folkslight battery light. GoPro, and Folkslight, are this time tethered properly.

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The usual dashboard is as last year. CS600 for heart rate and distance. Edge 810 for navigation and power.

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Carradice Nelson with Ortlieb dry bag attached.

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B&M Toplight mini dynamo rearlight for visibility and Niterider Solas2 battery light to blind everyone behind. Mostly using the dynamo light.

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In Topeak Tribag a work glove, multitool and clip-on sunglasses. It is also used as a trashcan. The other frame bag is for food only.

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Deuter triangle bag for most used extra clothes. Arm warmers, knee warmers, gloves and Buff.

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Tools are in the Nelson.

  • 2 spare tubes
  • 1 spare tire
  • 12 patches (and adhesive patches)
  • 2 pumps (two similar pumps also carry each other’s spare parts :))
  • Some oil and a rag
  • 1x shifter and brake cable
  • spare batteries, missing from the photo is Powertap tool
  • spare cleat and BOA tools for shoes
  • also missing from photo 3 spokes and nipples (in Nelson)

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And packed.

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Spare clothes. Shorts, wind-/waterproof jacket, toe warmers, reflective (wind) vest and a pair of socks.

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This year I’ll use hip pack instead of backpack.

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In the hip pack chamois cream, sunblock, electronics (3x micro-usb, 2x mini-usb, Olympus usb, 2x 2 slot usb chargers, Topeak and Nokia power banks, 12x lithium aaa:s (for SPOT and headlight), GoPro bacpac and Topeak multitool. Also a rag for cleaning hands (or/and anything except chain, really), scissors and 2 sporks. Packable Sea-to-Summit 30 litre backpack (the yellow thing in top right corner) as I don’t have a real backpack and I still need to carry food.

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Also in the hip bag some (350 g)  Powerbar drinking powder (the one with some caffeine and protein) and emergency ”food”.

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Finally the human clothing and camping kit (photo is missing shoes that are in the Nelson). About 70 cm x 50cm worth bubble wrap suitable as sleeping pad. Clothes will work as a pillow during road side breaks. Emergency blanket as it might be too cold or hot. There is a towel in the photo, but I am likely to drop that from the very final list. All carried in the Ortlieb dry bag. Idea is that I open it only when I’m taking a longer sleeping break

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The kit I’ll be wearing. Only thing changed from last year is gloves. + I’ll probably be wearing the event cap instead. In helmet there is Petzl Tikka 2 xp light that is easy to remove for day time.
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Finally my pockets from left to right. Primary phone, wallet, passport. Secondary phone, multitool, headphones and handsfree (when not in use). In rightmost pocket Tg-3 camera.

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Kilpaa Lontoosta Istanbuliin

Tiedote (28.7.2014), vapaa julkaistavaksi

Transcontinental race 2014

Lontoosta Istanbuliin pyöräiltävä Transcontinental race alkaa Lontoosta Westminsterin sillalta lauantaina 9.8.2014 kello 8. Noin 100 pyöräilijää lähtee ajamaan kohti Istanbulia itse suunnittelemaansa reittiä ilman ulkopuolista apua. Mukaan lähtee kaksi suomalaista pyöräilijää. Pyöräilijät ajavat kilpaa sekä toisiaan että kelloa vastaan. Maalissa Rumeli Hisarin linnoituksessa Bosporinsalmen rannalla pitää olla viimeistään 14 päivää ja 14 tuntia lähdön jälkeen.

Matka on yhtä pitkä kuin Tour de France, mutta aikaa on melkein kymmenen päivää vähemmän ja reitti ajetaan yksin. Nopeimmat tulevat olemaan maalissa arviolta kahdeksan päivää lähdön jälkeen. Viime vuoden voittaja käytti matkaan seitsemän päivää ja 13 tuntia, mutta silloin reitti oli helpompi. Päivämatkat ovat 250 ja 400 kilometrin välillä.

Reitin pitkää kulkea kolmen kontrollipisteen kautta. Ensin käydään Pariisissa Café au Reveil Matinissa, josta alkoi ensimmäinen Tour de France vuonna 1903. Seuraava piste on Alpeilla Passo dello Stelvion huipulla ja viimeinen Montenegrossa Kotorinlahden rannalla olevan Mont Lovcen vuoren huipulla.

Tapahtumaa voi seurata reaaliajassa osoitteessa www.transcontinentalrace.com. Pyöräilijöillä on mukana seurantalaitteet, jotka päivittävät tilanteen verkkoon noin puolen tunnin välein.

Suomalaiset osallistujat:

Mikko Mäkipää, Helsinki (Seuraa @mkpaa)

Jukka Virtanen, Kärkölä

Lisätietoja Mikko Mäkipää 0505822386

1000 km Tampere – Saariselkä brevet 26.-29.6.2014

26.-29.6. ajetaan tähän mennessä pisin Suomessa järjestetty brevet-pyöräily. 11 osallistujalla on 75 tuntia aikaa ajaa Tampereelta Saariselälle. Kokonaismatka on 1025 kilometriä.

Lähtö on torstaina kello 5 Tammerkosken sillalta ja maalissa Kaunispää-tunturin laella pitää olla viimeistään sunnuntaina aamulla kello 8.

Brevet-pyöräily ei ole kilpailu vaan tavoitteena on vain ajaa matka aikarajassa. Osallistujat saavat syödä ja levätä miten haluavat, mutta kello käy koko ajan.

Aiemmin 1000 km brevettejä ovat Suomessa ajaneet vain yksittäiset ajajat ja pisimmät järjestetyt ovat olleet 600 km pituisia.

Ranskasta 1800-luvun lopulla alkunsa saaneita brevet-pyöräilyjä ajetaan ympäri maailmaa. Suomessa harrastajia on noin 100.

Helsinki-Satakunta-Helsinki 600 km seuranta

Oripää Rauma Harjavalta Forssa Espoo (maali)
1. Daniel Stevall 16:42 21:10 0:59 12:59 20:33
2. Janne Villikka 15:13 19:05 22:12 5:09 12:04
3. Andrey Solovyev 15:30 19:50 22:36 11:45 18:58
4. Nikolai Litvinov 16:45 1:48 12:40 18:58
5. Kostantin Shemyak 15:14 19:05 22:36 11:45 18:58
6. Erkki Kerkelä 16:43 21:10 0:59 13:21 20:33
7. Antti Pietilä 15:14 19:05 22:12 5:09 12:04
8. Pauli Hyytinen 16:39 21:10 0:59 12:14 20:33
9. Antti Sintonen 16:40 21:10 0:59 12:20 20:33
10. Juhani Kangas 16:39 21:10 0:59 12:18 20:33
11. Ilkka Hyvärinen 16:41 21:10  KESK
12. Samuli Mäkinen 15:12 19:05  22:12 5:09 12:04
13. Jari Hyvönen 16:41 21:10  0:59 12:19 20:33
14. Hannu Kahlos 15:13 19:05  22:12 5:09 12:04
15. Antti Surokivi 15:16 19:05  22:12 5:09 12:04

Kuvia tapahtumasta täällä.

(15:10) Osallistujat ovat ohittaneet Someron ja enimmäiset ovat Oripäässä noin tunnin kuluttua.

(16:00) Ensimmäiset 6 ajajaa ovat ohittaneet Oripään.

(21:00) 7 pyöräilijää käynyt Raumalla. Seuraavien pitäisi saapua näillä hetkillä.

(1:17) 13 on saapunut Satalinnaan. 5 on jatkanut matkaa. Yksi keskeytti Raumalla.

(1:57) Kaikki mukana olevat ovat saapuneet Satalinnaan. Länsi-suomi uutisoi tapahtumasta.

(23:02) Lopputulokset.

Espoo-Räyskälä-Espoo 200 km ajettu

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Kevään brevet-kausi alkoi myös Helsingin seudun osalta 200 km brevetillä. Tällä kertaa ajettiin Espoosta Räyskälän lentokentälle ja takaisin. Mukana oli ennätykselliset 38 osallistujaa. Kaikki pääsivät perille aikarajassa. Nopeimmat palasivat Bemböleen alle kahdeksassa tunnissa ja viimeiset noin 10 ja puolessa.

Olosuhteet brevetillä olivat erinomaiset. Päivä oli kevään lämpimimpiä ja viime vuodesta poiketen lähes tyyni.

Tämä brevetti oli askel hyvään suuntaa Suomen breveteillä. Osallistujia oli monenlaisia ja ajo ei ollut enään pelkkä porukkalenkki. Nopeuseroja oli alusta asti ja tauoille saapui ja sieltä lähti ajajien tasaisena virtana. Useimmille myös löytyi oman tasoista ajoseuraa.

Tästä on hyvä jatkaa kohti pidempiä koitoksia.

Kuvia brevetiltä

Albumi (Mikko Mäkipää)

Albumi (”Karbis”)

Albumi (”Dan”)

Albumi (Antti Pietilä)